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In Charlotte ...

Started this discussion. Last reply by Forrest Curo 9th month 23, 2016. 18 Replies

There is a need for Quakers in Charlotte with the message of the complete sufficiency of the inward Light to guide and rule human life and relationships. This message can offset the destructive…Continue

2016 Presidential Campaign - An article at Politico.

Started 9th month 20, 2016 0 Replies

I appreciate the thoughtfulness of this assessment of the 2016 presidential campaign published at Politico.On The Ideas of Donald Trump.…Continue

From: The Ear of the Soul ...

Started this discussion. Last reply by Keith Saylor 6th month 30, 2020. 4 Replies

I noticed this post after following a link posted in the Daily Pick section of this website. It has captivated my attention and thought some of you who haven't read it, might find it as edifying as I…Continue

M w wting in San Francisco Area?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Keith Saylor 4th month 6, 2015. 4 Replies

I'm in San Francisco for a few days. Any suggestions for a Meeting in the area. Unprogrammed or programed.

 

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Jesus Christ's Life, Death, and Resurrection and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is a hack of the reflective nature and the dialectical world order.

Jesus Christ and the awareness of the of the continuous presence of the Holy Spirit in the mind and hearts of people hacks the reflective nature and the religious, political, educational, and commercial agencies and agents the dialectical world order manifests.When the visitation of the spirit of Jesus Christ is revealed in the conscious awareness of people, it happens they are drawn out of the cycle of dialect narration to guide their relations and affairs. It is discovered to them a different…See More
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Keith Saylor commented on Keith Saylor's blog post 'Online Version of William Rogers 1680 text "The Christian Quaker..."'
"A digitized and online rendering of Charles Leslie’s “The Snake in the Grass” (second edition published in 1697) is published on the Christonomy Project…"
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"Edited original Comment by Keith Saylor on 6th mo. 12, 2019 at 2:18pm [Note: This document is the first attempt to show part of the vision behind the Christonomy (https://christonomouslife.blogspot.com) network. There are various embedded links in…"
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"Hello Christopher, I apologize for the invalid link to The Christian Quaker. I need to do some updating of links as I've made many changes since the original post: 1. Here is the link to the online version of the…"
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"Pickworth's "A Charge of Error ..." Keyboarding of book completed - 2-6-23 This digital copy still needs editing. However, the completion of the keyboarding process is a big milestone in my research. I can now begin cross-referencing…"
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Keith Saylor commented on Keith Saylor's blog post 'Online Version of William Rogers 1680 text "The Christian Quaker..."'
"Christonomy The 19 charges Henry Pickworth published against the early Quaker leadershipin under the title "A charge of Error..." etc. are keyboarded from the original, including the extensive marginal notes. The whole of the main text is…"
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Keith Saylor commented on Keith Saylor's blog post 'The early church father Chrysostom and the putting away of the immediacy of the spirit of Jesus Christ.'
"§. 3. The Epistle of Edward Burroughs and the historic coming of the Quaker Gathering into the direct and immediate experience of the holy anointing of the Spirit of Christ. Notes and Draft. 01–01–2023. An epistle, dated 1658, by…"
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"§. 2. The different way qualified and suppressed in the reflective nature. Draft 12-26-22 Introduction. Chrysostom highlights a different way of relations between human beings and human beings and divine being that the christed (intentional…"
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The early church father Chrysostom and the putting away of the immediacy of the spirit of Jesus Christ.

§1. Chrysostom and the putting away of the immediacy of Christ's presence. Draft 1"It were indeed meet for us not at all to require the aid of the written word, but to exhibit a life so pure, that the Grace of the Spirit should be instead of books to our souls, and that as these are inscribed with ink, even so should our hearts be with the spirit. But since we have utterly put away from us this Grace, come, let us at any rate embrace the second best course."John Chrysostom, in this prelude to…See More
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Coming out of the reflective nature and the thought-entities it manifests through the presence of Christ in the intellect.

Jesus Christ was crucified through the agency of the reflective nature in the form of political and religious powers and principal­ities and the human instrumentalities of the thought-entities manifested through the reflective nature.Politics is the use of and possession by the reflective nature to guide, inform, manage, and influence human relations and public affairs through the agency of political institutions and the human instru­mentalities of the thought-entities manifested through the…See More
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The renewal of the intellect in Christ's Living and Continuous Presence

The spirit of Jesus Christ is come and in Christ's presence I am drawn out of the reflective nature and drawn into the direct awareness of the increase and decrease of the intensity of Christ's presence as the faculty through which my interactions and relationships are guided.In the presence of Christ, I am not of the reflective nature and do not participate or engage in the reflective process, or own the thought-entities manifested through the reflective nature, to guide and inform human…See More
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Robert Cowper commented on Keith Saylor's blog post 'In the spirit of Christ, being drawn out of the reflective nature to guide human relation'
"Everything is christ consciousness. Dinosaurs are were. They gave us energy knowing we were coming to utilize in leaps of evolvement. They now fly with wings, will have wings when we go inward where our spirit can unlock release unimagined power not…"
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In the spirit of Christ, being drawn out of the reflective nature to guide human relation

Awareness of the inshining presence of the spirit of Jesus Christ guides and informs my relationships and interactions. This awareness of the Spirit’s presence seated in my consciousness and conscience and the experience of its relative intensity through awareness of the increase or diminishment of the light of the spirit is, in itself, the faculty which anchors my consciousness and informs my conscience. In the power and presence of the spirit of Christ, the faculty of reason or reflective…See More
5th month 19, 2022
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Spiritual life along Oregon's coastal mountain range

In the Coastal Mountain RangeThe other day I was wading in a stream that runs through a dingle nestled in the coastal mountains along Oregon's south coast. I was there to observe American Dippers as they gleaned food by diving beneath the surface of the stream. It was a cool and dark down in the dingle. Yet, the sun illuminated the top of the mountains as its bright light slowly descended down the face of the wooded ridge and filled the dampened dingle first with a tawniness intermingling…See More
3rd month 6, 2022
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Life drawn into the power of the spirit of Christ and drawn out of the reflective nature.

Today the presence of the spirit of Christ is discovering to me a life in the presence of the immanent being of God itself ... drawn out of the reflective nature and into the holy nature as sufficient in itself to guide and inform human relationships and interactionsSee More
2nd month 18, 2022

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A Testimony to Living Witness ...
I am gathered in and by the inshining Light itself in itself upon my conscience and live this gathering in all things and circumstances. This gathered life owns the Light as the foundation of consciousness and is the sole informer and guide in and of the conscience. In this gathered Life, I experience self-consciousness in participation with the Light itself so that I am come into, experimentally, the active living and identification with the Light itself; in this way, I am the Light and know and own who I am which is shared by and is the inheritance of all persons.

In being gathered by the Light, it is discovered that this experimentally gathered Life is sufficient in itself to rule and govern the conscience and support consciousness; so that I am come out of identification with outward religious, political, and social, forms and contrivances as a source of meaning or purpose. I am not of these things. I am gathered into the invisible Children of Light ... independent and unaffiliated with any outward political, religious, or social form or institution; including the the outward forms and institution of Quakerism. I am gathered into the independent and unaffiliated Children of Light.

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Jesus Christ's Life, Death, and Resurrection and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is a hack of the reflective nature and the dialectical world order.

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Jesus Christ and the awareness of the of the continuous presence of the Holy Spirit in the mind and hearts of people hacks the reflective nature and the religious, political, educational, and commercial agencies and agents the dialectical world order manifests.

When the visitation of the spirit of Jesus Christ is revealed in the conscious awareness of people, it happens they are drawn out of the cycle of dialect narration to guide their relations and affairs. It is discovered to them…

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The early church father Chrysostom and the putting away of the immediacy of the spirit of Jesus Christ.

Posted on 12th mo. 21, 2022 at 3:00am 2 Comments

§1. Chrysostom and the putting away of the immediacy of Christ's presence. Draft 1

"It were indeed meet for us not at all to require the aid of the written word, but to exhibit a life so pure, that the Grace of the Spirit should be instead of books to our souls, and that as these are inscribed with ink, even so should our hearts be with the spirit. But since we have utterly put away from us this Grace, come, let us at any rate embrace the second best course."

John…

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Coming out of the reflective nature and the thought-entities it manifests through the presence of Christ in the intellect.

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Jesus Christ was crucified through the agency of the reflective nature in the form of political and religious powers and principal­ities and the human instrumentalities of the thought-entities manifested through the reflective nature.

Politics is the use of and possession by the reflective nature to guide, inform, manage, and influence human relations and public affairs through the agency of political institutions and the human instru­mentalities of the thought-entities…

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The renewal of the intellect in Christ's Living and Continuous Presence

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The spirit of Jesus Christ is come and in Christ's presence I am drawn out of the reflective nature and drawn into the direct awareness of the increase and decrease of the intensity of Christ's presence as the faculty through which my interactions and relationships are guided.

In the presence of Christ, I am not of the reflective nature and do not participate or engage in the reflective process, or own the thought-entities manifested through the reflective nature, to guide and…

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At 9:11am on 12th mo. 8, 2016, Forrest Curo said…

As some of the older people in my Meeting would have said, "Perhaps the message was not addressed to [me]."

At 12:03am on 12th mo. 7, 2016, Forrest Curo said…

For a beginning, he's misread what Jesus was talking about and misinterpreted the purpose of the young man's question. Later on, he gets caught in a misleading dichotomy between someone's idea of liberal individualism vs someone's idea of community authority; the truth is seldom anywhere near a dichotomy, neither on an end nor in the middle, but simply somewhere else. He seems to end up hoping that "capitalism" (wherever _that_ might be found!) may be a loose enough system to leave more room for following Christ -- another great confusion of irrelevancies and what transcends all that... stuff. It isn't that some people think too much; but quantity is never a substitute for quality. Theology should never be abandoned to theologians, 'armchair' or any other sort -- but no doubt God forgives us our efforts.

At 8:48pm on 12th mo. 6, 2016, Forrest Curo said…

Thanks for the question. It looks to me to be another example of someone intelligently missing the point -- but right now I don't have time to finish it; my wife likes me to rest her eyes by reading to her before we meditate. More later, I hope, after I'm done reading & digesting...

At 12:03pm on 3rd mo. 2, 2016, Kirby Urner said…

Thanks for your comments Keith.  It's not either / or right? 

Some brands of Quaker want to invent institutions as an expression of their faith, whereas others wish God's native intelligence to shine through, leaving it more to the Spirit to do the Self organizing. 

The latter approach appears more anarchic from the outside, but the actual participants may appreciate a certain Good Order of Friends nevertheless. 

There should be room enough for these various brands of practice.  Quakers are already all over the map in terms of how they present themselves.

At 10:40pm on 12th mo. 11, 2015, William F Rushby said…

I urge you to describe this news item briefly, and provide the URL for other QQ members to read the article.

At 10:30pm on 12th mo. 11, 2015, William F Rushby said…

Keith:  Thanks for calling this to my attention.  I don't believe it's right to have an "edifice complex" but, on the other hand, demolishing that piece of Quaker history and area history strikes me as being unnecessary and very sad. Sue Hewes, from the Poplar Ridge Meeting, was in our college Young Friends Fellowship.

At 12:32pm on 11th mo. 18, 2015, Diane Benton said…

Thanks for the report.  I can certainly see how being involved in the discussions on QuakerQuaker would be a distraction.  I look forward to having the fruit of your labor in the Light available.

At 11:10am on 11th mo. 18, 2015, Diane Benton said…

Keith, I miss hearing from you.  I suspect my computer has lost contact with yours, again.  The last thing I have on your page is, "Thanks Forrest and Diane. I really needed that. :-)"  Hope the connection comes back, again,  soon.  It just came back apparently spontaneously last time.

At 6:36pm on 8th mo. 5, 2015, Diane Benton said…

Keith, no I’m not a member, though, I’m continually experimenting with Light and have the good fortune to gather regularly with people who are also doing so.  Not all have come to the practice through Quakerism; some wound up checking us out through reading about Friends and stayed because they found what they were looking for.  Because of our lack of interest in the outward forms, we are an enigma to the yearly meeting.  The people now constituting the local meeting have brought it to a new place.

 

In reading Rogers two letters to Fox I seem to be getting a glimmer of what you’re referring to.  I feel his groaning as he wrestles with how things came to this point. Particularly that Fox had moved on from the message of the Light in their conscience available to move and guide them to needing outward forms to structure them.  And desiring with all his heart for Fox to say his intentions were being misrepresented by his followers.  Also, the pain of having Fox not answer him directly, but continuing to accuse Rogers of having left his first love and then Fox not responding at all.

At 3:47pm on 8th mo. 2, 2015, Diane Benton said…

Keith, I agree with your assessment of the nature of Wilkinson’s spirit and Fox’s in their letters.  Even Wilkinson’s conciliatory tone isn’t keeping me from wearying of the abundance of words being sent back and forth.  I’m not feeling Presence speaking through them. 

 

Gathering together for communion with Presence and going forth in Presence to care for the widows and orphans, feed the hungry, give water to the thirsty and visit those in prison is what energizes me.

 

I would be interested in hearing what you think of Rex Ambler's “Experiment with Light.”  Are you familiar with it?  The web address is http://www.experiment-with-light.org.uk/.

 
 
 

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