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Permalink Reply by Forrest Curo on 3rd mo. 3, 2018 at 9:54am

That God loves us is a commonplace; but I think we've all experienced examples (whether or not we'd describe them that way.)

That we've broken the Earth... doesn't this force us to reconsider the value of everything we've thought about the costs and benefits of all the human institutional arrangements people support, depend on, trust for information?

Is there room for doubt? I'd say the main uncertainties would be in whether the damage can be repaired at all, how long we have to prepare, and how extensive a loss of life we're facing.

Two articles re what's currently going on:

http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2018/03/warning-signs.html

and its likely significance:

https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/p/ten-dangers-of-global-warming.html

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Permalink Reply by David McKay on 3rd mo. 4, 2018 at 8:28am

I think if we can avoid going all out nuclear as we leave, the earth will manage to mend the damage. But the human species has lived down to my expectations in the past.

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Permalink Reply by Forrest Curo on 3rd mo. 4, 2018 at 9:39am

Mending should set in after around 10,000 years. (By then enough rock should have been exposed by weathering to absorb the excess CO2.)

Meanwhile we can expect a rough ride.

The weather is lovely here, returning to Summer norms after about a week of rainstorms... The local trees are confused between dropping or regrowing their leaves; and in the back yard there's a tiny new tomato on last year's plant. The East Coast, for now, has been getting the other side of the imbalance; and there's time for that pattern to reverse, freezing whatever I plant now... Then again, if we're locked into these conditions, we can have another year of praying for the county to not burn up. [We didn't used to get fire-hazard conditions in December or January.]

Surviving 50+ years of holding a nuclear gun to everybody's head... including several near-miss incidents where a few stubborn human beings kept us from setting off everything -- That's Grace all right. But the climate-monster? -- We've already started that moving. How fast? -- So far we've come closer to worst-case predictions than anything else. We-all might just need to mend our ways, & quickly.

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