Primitive Christianity Revived, Again
Started this discussion. Last reply by Forrest Curo 9th month 23, 2016. 18 Replies 0 Likes
There is a need for Quakers in Charlotte with the message of the complete sufficiency of the inward Light to guide and rule human life and relationships. This message can offset the destructive…Continue
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I appreciate the thoughtfulness of this assessment of the 2016 presidential campaign published at Politico.On The Ideas of Donald Trump.…Continue
Started this discussion. Last reply by Keith Saylor 6th month 30, 2020. 4 Replies 0 Likes
I noticed this post after following a link posted in the Daily Pick section of this website. It has captivated my attention and thought some of you who haven't read it, might find it as edifying as I…Continue
Started this discussion. Last reply by Keith Saylor 4th month 6, 2015. 4 Replies 0 Likes
I'm in San Francisco for a few days. Any suggestions for a Meeting in the area. Unprogrammed or programed.
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Jesus Christ and the awareness of the of the continuous presence of the Holy Spirit in the mind and hearts of people hacks the reflective nature and the religious, political, educational, and commercial agencies and agents the dialectical world order manifests.
When the visitation of the spirit of Jesus Christ is revealed in the conscious awareness of people, it happens they are drawn out of the cycle of dialect narration to guide their relations and affairs. It is discovered to them…
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§1. Chrysostom and the putting away of the immediacy of Christ's presence. Draft 1
"It were indeed meet for us not at all to require the aid of the written word, but to exhibit a life so pure, that the Grace of the Spirit should be instead of books to our souls, and that as these are inscribed with ink, even so should our hearts be with the spirit. But since we have utterly put away from us this Grace, come, let us at any rate embrace the second best course."
John…
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Jesus Christ was crucified through the agency of the reflective nature in the form of political and religious powers and principalities and the human instrumentalities of the thought-entities manifested through the reflective nature.
Politics is the use of and possession by the reflective nature to guide, inform, manage, and influence human relations and public affairs through the agency of political institutions and the human instrumentalities of the thought-entities…
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The spirit of Jesus Christ is come and in Christ's presence I am drawn out of the reflective nature and drawn into the direct awareness of the increase and decrease of the intensity of Christ's presence as the faculty through which my interactions and relationships are guided.
In the presence of Christ, I am not of the reflective nature and do not participate or engage in the reflective process, or own the thought-entities manifested through the reflective nature, to guide and…
ContinueAs some of the older people in my Meeting would have said, "Perhaps the message was not addressed to [me]."
For a beginning, he's misread what Jesus was talking about and misinterpreted the purpose of the young man's question. Later on, he gets caught in a misleading dichotomy between someone's idea of liberal individualism vs someone's idea of community authority; the truth is seldom anywhere near a dichotomy, neither on an end nor in the middle, but simply somewhere else. He seems to end up hoping that "capitalism" (wherever _that_ might be found!) may be a loose enough system to leave more room for following Christ -- another great confusion of irrelevancies and what transcends all that... stuff. It isn't that some people think too much; but quantity is never a substitute for quality. Theology should never be abandoned to theologians, 'armchair' or any other sort -- but no doubt God forgives us our efforts.
Thanks for the question. It looks to me to be another example of someone intelligently missing the point -- but right now I don't have time to finish it; my wife likes me to rest her eyes by reading to her before we meditate. More later, I hope, after I'm done reading & digesting...
Thanks for your comments Keith. It's not either / or right?
Some brands of Quaker want to invent institutions as an expression of their faith, whereas others wish God's native intelligence to shine through, leaving it more to the Spirit to do the Self organizing.
The latter approach appears more anarchic from the outside, but the actual participants may appreciate a certain Good Order of Friends nevertheless.
There should be room enough for these various brands of practice. Quakers are already all over the map in terms of how they present themselves.
I urge you to describe this news item briefly, and provide the URL for other QQ members to read the article.
Keith: Thanks for calling this to my attention. I don't believe it's right to have an "edifice complex" but, on the other hand, demolishing that piece of Quaker history and area history strikes me as being unnecessary and very sad. Sue Hewes, from the Poplar Ridge Meeting, was in our college Young Friends Fellowship.
Thanks for the report. I can certainly see how being involved in the discussions on QuakerQuaker would be a distraction. I look forward to having the fruit of your labor in the Light available.
Keith, I miss hearing from you. I suspect my computer has lost contact with yours, again. The last thing I have on your page is, "Thanks Forrest and Diane. I really needed that. :-)" Hope the connection comes back, again, soon. It just came back apparently spontaneously last time.
Keith, no I’m not a member, though, I’m continually experimenting with Light and have the good fortune to gather regularly with people who are also doing so. Not all have come to the practice through Quakerism; some wound up checking us out through reading about Friends and stayed because they found what they were looking for. Because of our lack of interest in the outward forms, we are an enigma to the yearly meeting. The people now constituting the local meeting have brought it to a new place.
In reading Rogers two letters to Fox I seem to be getting a glimmer of what you’re referring to. I feel his groaning as he wrestles with how things came to this point. Particularly that Fox had moved on from the message of the Light in their conscience available to move and guide them to needing outward forms to structure them. And desiring with all his heart for Fox to say his intentions were being misrepresented by his followers. Also, the pain of having Fox not answer him directly, but continuing to accuse Rogers of having left his first love and then Fox not responding at all.
Keith, I agree with your assessment of the nature of Wilkinson’s spirit and Fox’s in their letters. Even Wilkinson’s conciliatory tone isn’t keeping me from wearying of the abundance of words being sent back and forth. I’m not feeling Presence speaking through them.
Gathering together for communion with Presence and going forth in Presence to care for the widows and orphans, feed the hungry, give water to the thirsty and visit those in prison is what energizes me.
I would be interested in hearing what you think of Rex Ambler's “Experiment with Light.” Are you familiar with it? The web address is http://www.experiment-with-light.org.uk/.
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