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Primitive Christianity Revived, Again

A World without Sin, a/k/a A World without personal responsibility

It’s a World without Sin, everyone is ok
No need for Grace, from what people say
There’s no Hell to go to, no need to repent
it’s a World without Sin, a world without lent.

It’s a World without sin, the devil’s retired
there’s no one to tempt us, his imps have been fired
There’s no one way to God, Oprah has said
In John 14:6 Jesus was simply misread

It’s a World without Sin, we’re all children of God
we love one another, though sometimes its hard
yet spouses are given no rent money to pay
in a world without sin where everyone is ok

People are starving, children abused
while some have more money than they can use
Greedy people lose fortunes and then they complain
that people they trusted stole their ill-gotten gains

No creator existed to write the Good Book
this well ordered universe it’s just a fluke
who evolved into a monkey or maybe an ape,
who learned to play chess and paint a landscape

It’s a World without Sin, we’re all equal on earth
Except some are more equal by virtue of birth
We all love each other, no harm would we do
if others would treat us as we would treat you

We’re all children of God, we love one another
treating each other like Sister or Brother
but people are starving all over this Earth
because all their leaders have put themselves first

You can keep your World without Sin, it’s truly a lie
by people who live in fear till the day that they die
Because they live a life as their own God
that will end when their bodies get laid in the sod.

I think a little sin would not be to bad
to admit we’re not perfect might make us sad
but we would finally be able to open our eyes
and see that our Saviour for our sins He did die

Lord Jesus I pray for us sinners today
who think that imperfection is really ok
who don’t understand, that the Grace from your cross
bought our Father’s forgiveness at your great cost.

The result of living in a World without sin is that we can blame personal failings on organizations, both business and governmental. Instead of seeing racism and other sins as systemic to the human condition we choose to see them as organizational problems. Jesus could just as well have been speaking of Government when he spoke of a field in Matthew 13.

Mat 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
Mat 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
Mat 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
Mat 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
Mat 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
Mat 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Let him who has ears to hear, hear what the Spirit is saying to the Church and him or her who is without sin toss the first stone.

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Comment by James C Schultz on 10th mo. 15, 2017 at 1:07pm: Unfortunately those prison doors appear to be locked from the inside:

Rev_3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Comment by Forrest Curo on 10th mo. 15, 2017 at 4:50pm: We normally won't bust down a door if no one answers. But if we have reason to believe there's someone in serious trouble inside, that's a whole different matter.

Comment by David McKay on 10th mo. 15, 2017 at 5:32pm: :)

Comment by James C Schultz on 10th mo. 15, 2017 at 9:09pm: Apparently "Free Will" is a very strong door.

Comment by Forrest Curo on 10th mo. 15, 2017 at 11:25pm: Put a dent in mine; I think He's got our backs.

Comment by David McKay on 10th mo. 16, 2017 at 6:26am: I'm skeptical of appeals to free will. I'm equally skeptical about claims based upon determinism/fatalism. I guess its my pragmatist roots -- we're free within limits and the area of our responsibility lies within those limits. I am free to have turkey of salmon for lunch today. I am free from sinusitis. These uses of the concept I get. To talk about "freedom (or not) of the will" - this seems to me to be metaphysics. Notional stuff designed to cure headaches only philosophers have.

Comment by Forrest Curo on 10th mo. 16, 2017 at 8:44am: Theologians determined to find us all Guilty, Guilty, Guilty. What I find in the Bible looks much more like: "The good things I'd wanted to do vs the bad things I didn't have in mind."

Hard hearts, yeah. We know about those things.

Comment by James C Schultz on 10th mo. 16, 2017 at 9:16am: The way I look at it we have the ability to make choices. To keep to David's prison cell concept and my locked from the inside proposal, we go through life making choices. Each choice that doesn't result in opening the door, even a little bit, is like buying something to keep in our cell. Eventually we have so much "stuff" in our cell that we have to have a "cell" sale or suffocate ourselves. As we sell off the "stuff" we accumulated or give it away we get closer again to opening the door and in fact we might have to open the door just to have the sale. So we have free will but the results of poor choices eventually gets us to a point where we start making better ones. Hopefully our cell doors open outwardly.

Comment by Forrest Curo on 10th mo. 16, 2017 at 12:29pm: If your way of looking at it leads you into condemning your brothers and sisters, find yourself a better way to look at it.

Comment by James C Schultz on 10th mo. 16, 2017 at 2:00pm: I prefer to follow the scripture that tells us "Judge not, lest ye be judged". The point of the song is that not acknowledging the sin in the world doesn't eliminate it from the world, nor does refusing to admit we aren't living the lives we would like to live eliminate what Jesus did and can do for us. I acknowledge that this puts me out of the mainstream of Quakerism, at least as practiced in the US but being a Quaker doesn't define who I am nor do I want it to. My goal is to become more like Jesus. That is my unreachable star!

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